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Do Top-Tier Admission Officers Prefer Private or Public School Students?

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Is it true that private schools help get more students into top-tier colleges because they have insider connections with admissions offices? Do public school counselors have these connections as well? How much does the type of school factor into college admissions (i.e. will the college have higher expectations for a private school student? Will they prefer a private school student over a public school one, or shy away from admitting too many “preppies”?)


Private school counselors may have connections to the “top-tier” colleges, especially those counselors who have been around for a while. However, this largely applies to the most celebrated academies and less so to the more garden-variety independent schools. Yet there are several “buts” that need to be added here before you rush off to submit your application to Choate. πŸ˜‰

But No. 1: The counseling staff at private schools, even the most hyper-selective ones, often includes a mix of seasoned veterans (who have certainly been around the block and may indeed have a few elite-college admission officers on speed dial) along with younger rookies who have primarily been hired to teach physics or coach lacrosse and who may be working in the counseling office only part-time and with minimal experience under their belts. These newcomers, of course, have fewer personal ties to admission folks than the old-timers do. Therefore, whether or not a private school student is getting the advantage of a well-connected advisor can sometimes be the luck of the draw. Some public high school counselors also have admission-office affiliations that are every bit as solid as at the private schools’. Even so, the majority of students accepted by the most sought-after colleges are not there because of counselor connections.

But No. 2: It’s common for private school students β€” again, especially at the more prestigious places β€” to apply to the same short roster of colleges β€” the Ivies and their ilk plus the highly-ranked liberal arts institutions. So prep school counselors may endeavor to spread the wealth by encouraging some of their students to alter their top choices and amend their college lists. Because private schools are beholden to pleasing their tuition-paying parents, they’re worried about making sure that as many seniors as possible ultimately land at a favorite college. So one way to do this is to manipulate the “favorites.” At public schools, however, this rarely happens. (The students themselves may make their own adjustments, as in, “If Alex the valedictorian is aiming for Amherst, I’ll try for Williams, instead.”) But it’s rarely a priority of public school counseling offices to redirect applications to promote more acceptances.

But No. 3: Likewise, college officials seek a diverse range of students when choosing a freshman class. And “diverse” doesn’t just mean skin color or ethnic background. It also includes the high schools from which the admitted applicants hail. In the old days, when “The Dean” was in high school, the large, prominent private schools would send dozens of graduates to Harvard, Princeton, Yale, et al. Admission officers reasoned that, if Andover, Exeter, Deerfield, etc. had put their stamp of approval on a student, then this student was clearly good enough for them. But a lot has changed over the eons. With the elite colleges receiving a far broader swath of applications than ever before, there simply isn’t room in each entering class for every qualified applicant from any single high school. Thus, although Ivy and elite admission officers still pay attention to their traditional private “feeder” schools and will make sure that these places are represented in each first-year class, they’re careful to save spaces for students from a wide range of public schools, too. So colleges do indeed “shy away from admitting too many preppies,” as you’ve aptly suggested.

Bottom Line: As unsatisfying as this answer may be, there are both pros and cons to applying to top-tier colleges from private and public schools, so “The Dean” would not recommend enrolling at a private school for the express purpose of catching an admission officer’s eye. It’s far more important to excel wherever you are and to ask yourself how you might stand out in a cutthroat competitive applicant pool. It’s even more important to expand your horizons and look beyond the same-old, same-old colleges that so many teenagers seem to aspire to. Just as exceptional students abound in public high schools, they abound in public universities as well!

About the Ask the Dean Column

Sally Rubenstone is a veteran of the college admissions process and is the co-author of three books covering admissions. She worked as a Smith College admission counselor for 15 years and has also served as an independent college counselor, in addition to working as a senior advisor at College Confidential since 2002. If you’d like to submit a question to The Dean, please send it along here.

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By: Sally Rubenstone
Title: Do Top-Tier Admission Officers Prefer Private or Public School Students?
Sourced From: insights.collegeconfidential.com/do-private-school-students-have-college-admission-edge
Published Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 11:57:33 +0000

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Webinar Recap: How COVID-19 is Affecting Financial Aid

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Many families are facing new financial challenges in light of the coronavirus emergency, and College Confidential has fielded dozens of questions on this topic recently. To address those queries, we hosted a webinar on April 9 entitled “Paying for College Amid Changes Due to the Impact of COVID-19.”


During the event, moderated by Aaron Murphy, manager of learning and development with Inside Track, the following panelists offered their perspectives on the issue:

  • Denise Trusty, director of financial aid with Morehead State University
  • Laura Reisert Kalinkewicz, associate vice president of college partnerships with RaiseMe
  • Amy Nelson, director of sales at International Scholarship and Tuition Services
  • Charlie Javice, founder and CEO of Frank.

Check out the following topics that the panelists discussed, along with their views of how things may unfold amid the financial challenges brought on by the coronavirus outbreak.

Family Finances Changed? Contact Your Schools

If you plan to start college in the fall as a freshman β€” or return to school as an existing student β€” and your financial situation has changed since you applied for financial aid, you should contact the colleges on your list immediately. Financial aid departments can consider appeals for more money, but must base these decisions on each individual student’s situation, Trusty said.

“I know with Morehead State, where I work, we will be doing professional judgement calls on all students who say they’ve been affected,” she noted. “We will reach out to those students to see what we can do to help them maybe obtain additional funding, additional grants, scholarships, whatever they would be eligible for. We do professional judgment all the time for our students, because things happen all the time. This year will be an especially large amount of those, I’m sure, but those are up to individual schools to make that call for their students.”

In addition, she added, the Department of Education has set aside over $6 billion for additional grants and scholarships that the universities will be able to use. “Currently, I don’t know how that’s all going to play into this,” Trusty said. “So that will be up to each individual university on how they lay those out. I know it will be beneficial, I just don’t know how available that will be to each student.”

Keep in mind that schools are accustomed to reviewing financial aid appeals, and they all have processes in place for to do so. “It is really, really important to know that schools typically leave a budget from 10 percent to 20 percent or so of their financial aid dollars for what would be called a professional judgment bucket,”Javice said. “Therefore, there is additional money to be had, and it’s up to you to request it. You should approach your school as soon as you know you might need more money, and be prepared to show supporting documentation demonstrating how your finances are different from when you filed your FAFSA initially. This might require proof of a job loss, medical bills, a cut in pay or another such issue, Javice said.

In addition, if another school gave you a better financial offer, you can petition the school that gave you the lower offer for more money, Javice noted. “This typically works better for private institutions versus public state schools, given the fact that they have a little bit more discrepancy and more dollars to put to work in terms of a tuition discount,” she added. “This is solely up to the school on a case by case basis.” In some cases, the money is distributed on a first come, first serve timeline, so don’t wait if you know you need more aid.

Although financial aid can be a stressful topic, try not to be emotional when you request more money, Javice added. You’ll get a lot further by having organized documentation to present than you would by getting angry or upset, she noted.

Consider Outside Scholarships

The coronavirus situation has changed plans not only for incoming freshmen, but also for current college students, Nelson said. “Organizations are stepping up and trying to find ways to provide additional scholarship opportunities this year,” she noted. Students should be proactive in seeking those options.

Raise Me is offering new micro-scholarships for students who are seeking additional funding sources, Kalinkewicz said. In addition, she encourages students to ask colleges for more time to make decisions, even if the school hasn’t extended its deposit process. You can always try and request additional time to get your financial aid package right, she noted.

Finding more money is not relegated to younger students, Javice added. “Adult learners comprise the biggest group of people actually going to college today,” she noted. It’s very common for people to be seeking new types of skills and going back to college to gain additional degrees. Financial aid is available to adult learners, and they may even get aid to pay such costs as rent, she added. In addition, they can seek outside scholarships or employer-matching funds to pay for their educations.

Not Necessarily Too Late to File FAFSA

Students who didn’t file a FAFSA already should do that as soon as possible so you can get access to financial aid funds, Javice said. Federal FAFSA deadlines are usually in June, but states make their own deadlines for state aid. Some states, such as New Jersey, have moved their deadlines back for this year, so check to make sure you stay on top of your deadlines.

And if you file for financial aid and you decide you don’t want it, you can always decline the financial offer or portions of that offer, Nelson said. Your best bet is to apply so you can take what you need and decline any amounts you don’t need. Even if you don’t think you qualify for financial aid, you should apply anyway because you could be surprised at what you’re offered. “You really need to complete that [FAFSA] process every year,” Nelson said. “The process is very easy, and jobs can come and go. It’s your safety net and you want to make sure you’ve completed it. It makes it a whole lot easier when situations like this arise.”

Some colleges also have supplemental applications to fill out for particular types of aid, so always reach out to your financial aid office for information on which documentation you should be completing, Kalinkewicz said.

Could Families β€” Not Schools β€” Be in the Driver’s Seat?

Because many merit scholarships are based on test scores and GPAs, some high school juniors are concerned that they won’t have access to those in the coming year. With test dates being canceled and grades moving to pass/fail, they fear they won’t meet the criteria to earn such scholarships.

“It’s clear to me that colleges and universities know the extraordinary circumstances we’re under,” Nelson said. “All schools are leaning forward and considering all options as the situation develops. I would continue to encourage juniors to stay engaged and stay informed.” You should also watch to see what happens with test dates, she said. The ACT and SAT dates could change, and some schools may forego the need for a test score altogether, she added.

In addition, some merit scholarships that have traditionally been based on test scores may become test optional, Kalinkewicz noted.

Keep in mind that in many cases, families are in the driver’s seat rather than having the colleges be in charge, Javice said. Some schools have lost revenue and are very eager for students right now, “so if you are scared because you thought you could never get into a specific school from an admission criteria standpoint, this is your year to stretch, this is your year to think about the schools that are your reach category and go for it, because schools need the money and need the students. So the power that used to be in an admissions office is in you, the student or the family’s hands,” she said.

She also advises juniors to request application waivers from schools to save the $50 to $100 or so per application that they would normally pay. The schools may say no, but it won’t hurt to ask, she advised. “Persistence is key when dealing with schools,” Javice noted.

Federal Student Loans Payment Suspended

As many families are aware, payments on federal student loans are automatically suspended from March 13 through September 30, 2020 thanks to the government’s CARES Act. This is essential to keep in mind, particularly for families that have multiple children in various stages of the college process.

“You will stop paying your loans and you will have zero interest from now until September 30, and that’s important for parents to know,” Nelson said regarding existing federal student loans. “If you had an auto draft, the auto draft has been shut off and will not continue. You can, however, continue to make those payments if you’d like, and any interest you had before March 13, once that interest is paid up, all your payments will go directly toward your principal.” She advises families with federally-backed loans to check with their loan servicing agents, because they have a lot of information for both parent and student borrowers on how the CARES Act will impact payments for the next six months.

Student Job Gone? Colleges Might Help

For students who expect to earn money via part-time or full-time work to pay for college, but can’t do so due to the coronavirus, colleges may have resources to help. “There are many colleges and universities that have put together emergency grants for students to cover expenses that they were maybe not expecting because of COVID-19,” Nelson said. “They are making accommodations to try and make up for that lost income for students.”

Trusty said Morehead State is continuing to pay students who were on federal work-study. “If they had a job, we are still paying them right now as if they were working, although they are not. In the summer, those funds will be flipped over to emergency grant funds. So we will make sure that our students are covered and can live as if they were employed with the work-study position.”

Some colleges have even made remote work available to students, Kalinkewicz added. Therefore, contact your financial aid office to determine if any accommodations are available to make up for lost student income whenever possible.

Consider Other Options to Save

If you are seeking ways to save money on college, you should also consider other resources, whether that means less expensive colleges, in-state options or potentially transferring down the road, Janice said. You can also save money by taking classes at a community college to pay a lower cost for your credits that can be transferred to a four-year college later.

“If you have that target institution in mind β€” maybe you’ve already been admitted there but your family has determined a year of community college will really help stretch things further β€” work on articulation agreements or a plan so you are taking the right classes that actually have the ability to transfer toward the degree you want at your target institution, not necessarily just as credit,” Kalinkewicz said.

In addition, many colleges offer merit aid for transfer students, she added. So always look for every potential financial aid and scholarship resource to best maximize your package and allow your dollars to stretch as far as possible.

Resource: To review the entire hour-long webinar, you can watch the replay here.

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By: Torrey Kim
Title: Webinar Recap: How COVID-19 is Affecting Financial Aid
Sourced From: insights.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-amid-covid-19
Published Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 15:22:20 +0000

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